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#1 KevinKorell

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Posted 15 August 2003 - 01:06 PM

BART & MUNI have stated that if a massive blackout hit the Bay Area with the magnitude that the Northeast & Midwest were hit yesterday, they would be ready and would get passengers home within hours. From the San Francisco Chronicle, 8/15/03:

A Bay Area blackout such as the one that hit New York on Thursday would have the same effect on our subway systems: BART and the San Francisco Municipal Railway would grind to a halt.

But unlike the Big Apple's transit system, which could do nothing but let riders find their own way home, BART and Muni have backup plans to get people moving again and prior experience with widespread outages.

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Posted 15 August 2003 - 03:17 PM

....and I bet that New York will counter-claim that they can handle passengers better after an earthquake. ;) ;)


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Posted 15 August 2003 - 04:14 PM

Well one also has to look at the number involved here too. Bart is moving a fraction of the people that are being moved here in NYC. They also have far less trains to deal with. They claim that a problem would strand 90,000 people in their system. New Jersey Transit on a normal day moves something in the neighborhood of 120,000 people per day into Penn. That's just one system moving more people than Bart. Now factor in the LIRR, Amtrak, and Metro North and you are probably talking stranding 400,000 to 500,000 people. That's before you start talking about the subways, where I seem to recall reading that close to 350,000 people were evacuated from over 500 trains. So the logistics of handling that many people is vastly different from handling 90,000 people. Even if the police cleared all the traffic from the Manhattan streets, I don't think we could fit all of the buses that we would need to move all those people. I doubt very much that we even have that many buses.
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Posted 16 August 2003 - 01:02 PM

Gray Davis will have anyone say anything possible to try to show how much better his ramshackle outfit is in California than anywhere else in order to try to convince people to spare his governorship from recall on Oct. 7. :-)

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Posted 20 August 2003 - 09:39 PM

Now, BART says, "Nevuhmind.."! :rolleyes: :unsure: From the San Francisco Chronicle, 8/16/03:

Blackout would paralyze BART;
Spokesman recants earlier assurances

BART made an about-face Friday and said its trains would screech to a halt in a blackout just like New York City's.

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 12:53 AM

Rodriguez has been lableled a spokesman for at least three years, but maybe he is a slow learner about his organization. Memo to primary Bart Spokesman Mike Healy: maybe you should thinK about either refusing vacation time or else finding a new man to back you up.

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 08:11 PM

Who should I send my resume to? Will they provide relocation assistance? <G>




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