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#1 Mount Royal

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:11 AM

This is a list of surviving KCS passenger service equipment based on the information I have gathered from multiple sources. Not all of the information is current and much will require updates. If anyone has any current and reliable information regarding these cars, please comment. Current status, ownership, location, and photos are greatly appreciated. The completed list will be provided for the KCS Historical Society archives. Thanks.

There are a few pieces of equipment on the list that ran with AMTRAK and need updating as well.


ACF Bag/RPO #6, originally Katy #225, former CGW #6, then to Smokey Hill Railway Historical Society. DST Systems of Kansas City bought the car from Smokey Hill. Mid America Car & Locomotive for external restoration. Currently displayed on the turntable at the former KCT Roundhouse.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #15, then MOW service, then Great Smokey Mountain in 1993. Converted to open air coach. Reported to be in service by Aaron S. of GSMR as of 12/18/17.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #16, then MOW service.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #18, then MOW service.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express Car #19 Heavener, originally- Car #17, then #17 in MOW service. Current KCS business train consist member. Tool car.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #19, then MOW service.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #20, then MOW service, then Great Smokey Mountain in 1993. Converted to open air coach. Reported to be in service by Aaron S. of GSMR as of 12/18/17.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #21, originally- #71, then AMTRAK #1086, then #17077. MOW service. Reportedly sold.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #22, then MOW service, then Great Smokey Mountain in 1993. Converted to open air coach. Reported to be in service by Aaron S. of GSMR as of 12/18/17.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #23, originally- #74, then AMTRAK #1087, then #10092. Exhibit Car Southern Belle, then Adrian & Blissfield RR as power car. Mark D. of A&B reported this car was a victim of arson on May 17, 2014.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #24, originally- #75, then AMTRAK #1088, then #17074- MOW service. Reportedly used as storage at Niles, MI.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #25, then MOW service, then Great Smokey Mountain in 1993. Converted to open air coach. Reported to be in service by Aaron S. of GSMR as of 12/18/17.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #26, originally- #78, then AMTRAK #1089, then #17078- MOW service. Reportedly used as storage in Wilmington, DE.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #27, then MOW service, then Great Smokey Mountain in 1993. Converted to open air coach. Reported to be in service by Aaron S. of GSMR as of 12/18/17.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #28, then MOW service.

Pullman Standard Bag/Express #29, then MOW service.

Pullman Standard Heavyweight Bag/RPO #30, originally- #60. SHRHS, Owned by Charles Pitcher and Allen Maty. Moved to Midland in Baldwin City, Kansas in 1990 and is currently usable. The car is in good condition overall with its RPO interior intact as reported by A. Kinsley, GM of the Midland as of 12/15/2017.

ACF Bag/RPO/Dorm Car #34, originally- #67, then to private owner J. Murrietta, then to "All Aboard Ice Cream Co." to become an ice cream parlor in 2014. Located at 102 Castle Dr, Joplin, MO 64804 https://youtu.be/wycJ4ftAMkk

BUDD Lounge/Obs. Car #40, originally- NYC #50, then KCS #46. B&O Museum as MARC1 and finally B&O "Royal Blue". Car is regularly used as a first class car on the museums operational trains and is reported to be in great shape. Reported by H. Van Waes, Director of Operations for the B&O Museum on 1/11/18.

BUDD Lounge/Obs. Car #41, originally- NYC #51, then KCS #47. Southern Belle Antiques in Jackson, Louisiana.

BUDD Lounge/Obs. Car #42, originally- NYC #49, then KCS #45. Privately owned by Jon Clark. Currently located at the A&M car shops in Ft. Smith, AR for restoration to operation. Reported by the owner on 12/29/17.

BUDD Lounge/Obs. Car #43, originally- NYC #48, then KCS #44, then to Starlight 48, running under the AMTRAK number of 800146, then to Artrain in Ann Arbor, MI as ARTX 105. Sold to Robert Van Camp. Currently located on the property of the Durbin and Greenbrier in Belington, WV.

Pullman Standard Heavyweight Coach-Diner Car #52, then sold to Trinity Valley Museum, then to private owner. Car is located on a lot at the corner of TX (hwy)-24 and FM (farm road)-1528 in Klondike, Texas.

Pullman Standard Grill/Obs. Car #54, originally- Kansas City, then rebuilt by ACF in 1940 and renamed Good Cheer, then Houston RR Museum/ Gulf Coast NRHS. currently is stored at the Austin Steam Train Association's yard in Cedar Park, Texas. Currently on lease and at Austin Steam Train Assoc. in Cedar Park, TX for restoration. Owner is Texas Railroading Heritage Museum/ Gulf Coast NRHS, Tomball, TX. Verified by Tom Marsh,
Vice President of the Gulf Coast Chapter - National Railway Historical Society, Inc. 12/22/17.

Pullman Standard Grill/Obs #55 Hospitality, originally-Shreveport. Currently owned by SHRHS and located on the Belton, Grandview, and Kansas City RR in Belton, MO. Reported to be in poor condition with a weak floor and leaky roof. Not in use. Static display only. Report comes from BG&KC personnel on 12/15/2017.

ACF 36 Seat Dining Car #56 Mountain Lodge, originally- #58. Current KCS business train consist member. Renamed Jackson.

ACF 36 Seat Dining Car #59 Old Plantation, originally- #57, then AMTRAK #8044. Currently located on Branson Scenic RR property and lettered for BSR. Owned by T. Johnson and used for storage. 01/08/18.

Baggage car #80 (builder unknown) Reportedly purchased from ATSF in 1964, off roster by 1968. Sold to San Angelo Tank Car where it was located minus trucks. Current location unknown.

Pullman Standard/Darby Business Car #99 New Orleans, former TOLMAK, originally- Monte Cristo, then- CGW #100. Current KCS business train consist member.

Barney & Smith Business car #99 Geraldyne, originally- KCP&G 200, then KCS car #100. In 2008, this car was moved to Kansas City Union Station for display. KCUS later sold the car and it was reported in 2015 to be listed on Ozark Mountain Railcar's website for sale. Contacted OMR on 12/21/17, car did not sell and listing was removed. No further info.

Pullman Standard Business Car #101, originally- MKT #402. Reportedly sold to a private owner in Tulsa, circa 1968. Painted and re-lettered for Mallard Transportation "RPCX 101". Moved to Fayetteville, Arkansas for restoration in 2004. Reportedly located in San Antonio, TX.

Pullman Standard 10 section Solarium/Obs Car #201. Originally- Malatha, then Mount Royal. Pullman to KCS 1948. Served until the arrival of the four former NYC BUDD tavern-obs. cars. Now owned by Railroad Museum of New England. Stored, stabilized, and awaiting restoration in Thomaston, CT.

ACF 60 Seat Chair cars-
#261, originally- 247 then LIRR 8563

ACF 60 seat Chair Car #262, originally- 246. Later- LIRR 8564 (8/1968), SHRHS- 1976. 1986- owned by Ross Bryan, 2000- donated to the Midland in Baldwin City, KS. Reported to be poor condition by A. Kinsley, GM of the Midland as of 12/15/2017.

#263, originally- 248 then LIRR 8565
#264, originally- 245 then LIRR 8566
#265, originally- 250 then LIRR 8567
#266, originally- 249 then LIRR 8568

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #270, then to CNJ as #5340, then to C&NW #5340, then to NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400003 Honey Bee. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #271, then to CNJ as #5341, then to C&NW as #412, RNCX Lake Forest luxury sleeper, then to UP business fleet. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #272, then to CNJ as #5342, then to C&NW as #413, RNCX Lake Bluff luxury sleeper, then to UP business fleet. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #273, then to CNJ as #5343, then to C&NW #414, RNCX Lake Norman luxury sleeper, then NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400007 Channel Bass. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #274, then to CNJ as #5344, then to C&NW #425, then to NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400002 Dogwood. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #275, then to CNJ as #5345.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #276, then to CNJ as #5346, then to C&NW #411, RNCX 400402 luxury sleeper Lake Mattamuskeet, then to NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400006 Plot Hound. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #277, then to CNJ as 5347, then to C&NW #5347, then to NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400001 Cardinal. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #278, then to CNJ as #5348, then to C&NW #5348, then to NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400004 Long Leaf Pine. In service.

Pullman Standard 72 Seat Chair Car #279, then to CNJ as #5349, then to C&NW #5349, then to NCDOT as 66 seater coach #400005 Scotch Bonnet. In service.

Pullman Standard Business Car Kay-see, 1995- renamed Kansas City, now Harry S. Truman- On display under canopy at KCS Headquarters. Kansas City, MO.

ACF Business Car (Louisiana & Arkansas) Magnolia Harvey C. Couch's business car. In 1970 the Couch family located the car and purchased it for scrap value in Louisiana. It was brought to Couchwood and restored in 1971. Today it sits on Couchwoods property for use with family and guests. Couchwood is the Couch family estate and is located at 601 Couchwood Rd, Hot Springs National Park, AR 71901 The car is available for rental. http://couchwood.org/houses/magnolia/

Pullman Standard Parlor Lounge Car #501, originally Pullman Wallingford, then Wabash Wayfarer. Off roster in 1962. Sold to the Reader where it was mis-identified as #500 Rambler. Sold to the Valley Railroad around 1970 and restored as Wallingford. In service on VALE.

Pullman Standard 14-4 Sleeper #45 Arthur Stilwell, then AMTRAK #2521.

Pullman Standard 14-4 Sleeper Stuart Knott, then sold private owner Tom McOwen of Cincinnati, OH. Ran with an Amtrak or PPCX number of 800284.

Pullman Standard 14-4 Sleeper #44 Colonel Fordyce, then AMTRAK #2520.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:59 PM

Here's a link to the organization's website:

 

http://www.kcshs.org



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 02:55 PM

Thanks. Ive been in contact with them for a while now. Their archivist created the last list some thirty years ago. Now, Im updating it. The sleepers and the baggage cars that went to Amtrak have been the most difficult to verify. Just seeing if a few more pairs of eyes would help. Thanks again.




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