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[jis]

List of NJTransit Last Trains today.

List of MNRR and LIRR last trains from the Wall Street Journal.

[jis]

NJTransit is moving all trains out of yards that are within the SLOSH zone. Some equipment will be parked on main lines, e.g. equipment from Bay Head yard will be parked between Woodbridge and Rahway. Reports say that Summit, Dover, Waldwick and Hillburn yards are full to capacity. They have to clear everything out of Hoboken, and some parts of MMC which is substantially within the SLOSH zone. I suspect Gladstone, Port Morris, Great Notch, Woodbine and Morrisville will get pretty full too. Don't know what is the disposition of Long Branch. Beyond that equipment will be parked in safe areas on main line tracks. The main goal is to keep stored trains away from possibly getting flooded. I have no idea what is happening with Sunnyside. It was just reported that mobile coffer dams are being installed in subway tunnels to keep water from getting through them to Penn Station. I must admit I had not thought of that possibility as a critical issue. Mayor is saying that it will most likely be tough to get to work on Monday morning.

[AlanB]

I have no idea what is happening with Sunnyside.

Sunnyside is not located in a Zone A area, which are the only areas subject to potential storm surges. Sunnyside is located in a Zone C area, but that requires a direct hit from a Category 3 storm.

This is not to suggest that 10 inches of rain couldn't cause some problems for Sunnyside, but it shouldn't be too bad. Of course, I rather suspect that most equipment has been moved elsewhere anyhow to protect it from flying debris.

It was just reported that mobile coffer dams are being installed in subway tunnels to keep water from getting through them to Penn Station. I must admit I had not thought of that possibility as a critical issue.

You'd need like 4 feet of water in the subway tunnels before it could flow over the platforms and down the stairs to reach the LIRR level of Penn. I don't really see that happening, unless they lose power and the pumps stop working and therefore cannot keep up with the rain water flowing into the subway.

Water flowing into the tunnels in lower Manhattan, if it happens, is going under the East River and not north to Penn.

Mayor is saying that it will most likely be tough to get to work on Monday morning.

That's because it will take a while to move all the trains out of the tunnels and back into the yards before they can resume service. And they won't be able to start moving trains until probably at least 8 PM tomorrow and that assumes that a majority of the yards don't have standing water. Also of course they could have to contend with damage in the tunnels under the East River that could shut down some lines for days.