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#11 Sloan

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 11:39 AM

Build $16B Hudson tunnel project or economy could lose $100M a day, Amtrak says

We're looking at a minimum of 7 years to 11 years. That's from the time we get a go-ahead," Joe Boardman, Amtrak president.


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 11:08 PM

Bloomberg News, 1/6:
 

Christie Endorses Tunnel Four Years After Killing Project

 

Four years after killing a $12.4 billion tunnel that would have doubled commuter capacity to Manhattan, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has endorsed another stab at rail expansion as part of a plan to remake the Port Authority.

 

If Christie hadn’t stopped the Access to the Region’s Core project that began in 2009, mass-transit relief would have come as soon as 2018. Now he supports an approach, with new oversight by the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, that has no dedicated funding and would take at least 10 years.

 

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 01:32 AM

Hopefully New York State and New York City will get on board with Gateway, so things can proceed. 

 

Some of the comments under the cited article indicate that people don't understand the full picture here. Cancellation of ARC was a way to step back and re-evaluate things so that New Jersey would be off the hook for some of the costs involved with building a rail line that would terminate way beneath the basement of Macy's instead of having connections to the existing Penn Station as well as Sunnyside Yard, the Amtrak leads to the Hell Gate Bridge, and even Grand Central Terminal, which was another element of ARC that got cut.  And to include access to the existing Penn Station from the ARC tunnel as it had become would have been impossible due to the need for the connection to be underneath the Hudson River and at too steep a grade.  Overall, while the new tunnels and separate station would have allowed more NJ TRANSIT capacity  in Manhattan, they would have done nothing to address the problem with Amtrak's existing old tunnels, which under ARC it still would have had to use.

 

Gateway at least under Amtrak's scenario provides options to use Penn Station as it exists now, as well as adding more tracks to the existing structure and providing needed connections beyond the station.



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Posted 17 March 2015 - 09:54 PM

Wall Street Journal, New York, NY, 3/12/15:

 


 

Hudson River Train Tunnels Wanted But Needs Money and a Plan: Officials

 

 

A top federal transportation official on Thursday expressed support for digging new passenger rail tunnels under the Hudson River, as the current aging ones irk commuters with delays between New York and New Jersey.

 

But Peter Rogoff, the U.S. undersecretary of transportation for policy, cited two major hurdles in jump-starting a tunnel project: money and coordination among various government agencies.

 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 09:56 PM

Second Avenue Sagas commentary on the above, 3/16/15:


Wanted: A champion, some dollars and a trans-Hudson tunnel

 

For the past few years, I’ve argued that big-ticket transportation items in New York City see the light of day only when they have a political champion lined up to fight for dollars. Senator Schumer delivered money for the first phase of the Second Ave. Subway; Mayor Bloomberg ushered in the 7 line extension; for better or worse, Al D’Amato shoulders the thanks (and blame) for East Side Access; and Gov. Andrew Cuomo is responsible for the mysteriously funded New New York Bridge. Without these politicians fighting for their projects, construction wouldn’t have begun, and money wouldn’t have flowed.

 

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 02:39 PM

The Record, Woodland Park, NJ, 5/7:
 

Port Authority chairman pledges to back Amtrak’s Hudson River tunnel project

 

The Port Authority will “step up to the plate” to help design, fund and build new train tunnels under the Hudson River, its chairman said Thursday, a sudden change in policy for the bi-state agency, which has not included funding for the massive project in its 10-year, $25 billion capital plan.

 

The shift by the Port Authority comes as Amtrak continues to work on the tunnel project, known as Gateway. Already, the federally chartered company has built the foundation for a new tunnel between 10th and 11th avenues on the West Side of Manhattan at a cost of $185 million. Now, phase two, to extend that effort west of 11th Avenue, is under way, said Amtrak board Chairman Anthony Coscia on Thursday.

 

“People are talking about Gateway as though it’s a future project. It’s not,” Coscia said. “We can’t wait for a starting gun. We’re moving ahead now.”

 

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 02:48 PM

The New York Times, 5/8:

 
Obama Administration Urges Fast Action on New Hudson River Rail Tunnels

Elected officials usually have to go to Washington and beg for federal support to build huge transportation projects. On Thursday, on a high floor of the tallest building in New York City, that dynamic was on display in reverse.

 

A top transportation official from the Obama administration pleaded with transportation officials from throughout the metropolitan area to pull together on a plan to build new rail tunnels under the Hudson River before it is too late. The existing tunnels — the only rail links between the city and New Jersey — are 105 years old and in urgent need of an overhaul.

 

The White House ranks the proposal, known as the Gateway project, as the most important planned piece of rail infrastructure in the country, said Peter M. Rogoff, an under secretary in the federal Transportation Department. He said the Obama administration was “eager, if not anxious,” to reach an agreement on how to pay for the project, which is expected to cost at least $8 billion.

 

“We need action by our Congress, we need action in Trenton, we need action in Albany, and we need it soon,” Mr. Rogoff said at a conference on the 63rd floor of 1 World Trade Center, hosted by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

 

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 03:03 PM

NJ.com, 5/8:
 

These 9 facts make the case for spending up to $40B to expand mass transit across the Hudson

 

NEW YORK — Trans-Hudson commuting capacity must be expanded as soon as possible despite projected costs totaling tens of billons of dollars.

 

That was the consensus among nearly 200 transportation officials and experts on Thursday, who assembled for an all-day transit conference

Thursday on the 63rd floor of One World Trade Center.

 

The main project officials are counting on is the Gateway trans-Hudson rail tunnel, a project sponsored by Amtrak and intended to double the flow of its own and NJ Transit trains into New York Penn Station, whose total cost has been projected at up to $30 billion, said Rohit Aggarwala, a principal of Bloomberg Associates who moderated a discussion on public-private partnerships. Amtrak officials have estimated project's cost at about $20 billion.

 

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 09:23 PM

The New York Times, 7/7:

 
The Case for New Hudson River Rail Tunnels

By MICHAEL KIMMELMAN

JULY 7, 2015
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Working on the twin train tunnels between Pennsylvania Station and New Jersey in 1908. The tunnels, used by Amtrak and New Jersey Transit, urgently need repair. Credit The New York Times
 

Aross the country, competition is stiff for the most dilapidated bridge, tunnel or train system.

 

But a plan for a pair of new passenger tunnels under the Hudson River, called Gateway, surely ranks one, two and three in terms of urgent rail projects.Passenger traffic under the Hudson River — and by association a hefty chunk of the nation’s economy — relies on a couple of broken-down, century-old tunnels strained to capacity. They serve Amtrak and New Jersey Transit trains that at rush hour have come to resemble the Marx Brothers’ stateroom scene.

 

Gateway, which has been pushed by the Obama administration, calls for two new passenger rail tunnels feeding into Pennsylvania Station in Manhattan, the nation’s busiest and most disgusting transit hub, not to mention a potential fire trap. In 2010, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey killed a plan called ARC to add tunnels. Despite federal assurances to the contrary, he claimed potential cost overruns could leave his state holding the bag. Instead, Governor Christie directed money already set aside for the tunnels (including billions from the Port Authority) to roadway projects. Considering the Hudson is a chokepoint for passenger rail traffic all the way from Boston to Washington and even beyond, that move left the whole Eastern Seaboard transportation network in a highly precarious position.

 

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Meanwhile, Gateway is the first step. It’s time to start digging.

 

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 09:35 PM

Consolidated multiple threads on the  proposed "Gateway" Hudson River tunnel project.

 

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